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Scott McLeod

It seems to me that this is only the starting point for your data collection. Don't you really need data from the dropouts about WHY they're dropping out and what the school could do differently to help them? This also applies to those students you identify as being at risk of dropping out. Maybe you have some of this data already. Is it being systematically collected, analyzed, and acted upon?

I'm not sitting in judgment here. Just offering some thoughts.

Ms. Q

Finally! An administrator who believes in the same thing I do. Alternatives, which are really alternative--a different way of doing! I began the year voicing this opinion and continue to do so, but like you have run into the idea of change is a gradual, slow process. I teach in a largely Hispanic, high poverty area and deal with the same issue of drop outs and students who just can't seem to make it through "school" as it is now. I am reading with interest!

Scott McLeod

I think this quote accurately sums up the current problem:


Kimberly Moritz


I just re-read my post because I didn't think I said "we've tried everything"-that's not where I'm at with my thinking at all. In boldface I say we need an alternative, something completely different. And as far as the data collection as you describe it, in talking with our students and asking "why?" that's what Native Voices is about and what I tried to describe. And I figured it goes without saying that we have NUMEROUS intervention/interviews with EVERY student prior to dropping out, no one gets out the door without every effort to keep them.


Kim, I figured you're doing all kinds of stuff!!

What kind of data are you collecting from the students themselves about the reasons they're dropping out (or thinking about it)? How do you and your staff use that data?

pete reilly

I approach these questions from a reflective practice...that is "Why do I drop out of things ?"

1. no progress is being made. Lot's of talk and little in the way of outcomes.

2. one person was doing all the work and those of us who were willing to work didn't feel useful.

3. there were more relevant activities for me to pursue.

4. I was bored.

5. bad dynamics - fighting, arguing, conflicts

6. little sense of direction or inspiration

Sometimes looking at why I do things helps me understand what is going on in others.


Reggie Engebritson

Thanks for this post. Gave me some things to think about as I begin my new position as director of an alternative school. I was just recently wondering if we do the same things their home schools do, only in a different setting which is probably not enough for these alternative learners. I'm anxious to get in there and find out!

Thanks again.

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