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Greg Carroll

Ha! Love it!! Well put.

John Evans

Greg, loved your post!

School leaders who are so focused on the minute details aren't having fun doing their jobs and aren't much fun to work for either!


Doug Johnson

Great post, Greg. I would add to this list people who are so tied to their cell phones that they can't sit through a meeting without taking a call. These are not people who empower others, but like control.

All the best,


Suzanne Shall

I see the biggest difference as those who are passionate and love their careers as educators and those who don't. Your post shows clearly that you are one of the passionate ones. I feel the same way!


Glad to see y'all jump on board so far. Allow me to change the tone a little for variety. I'm sure that you are good to go with only 30 hours a week. I guess I'm not that organized, smart, or whatever it is.

Personally I am offended with those people that knock off "whenever they are darned good and ready" regardless of having their work done or not (not to mention the clock or contract) - after all it will be there tomorrow, right? The reality is that someone else is likely picking up the pieces that were too unimportant to get picked up in a timely manner.

Actually, I am a workaholic, and I dont' mind. Maybe I fit all four of your so eloquently stated categories (HINT: my "family" includes my students and staff plus the five in my home). Please tell me again that I can't enjoy a FB game (District Champs), VB match (still alive in tourney play), or CC meet (last year's State Champ and a different athlete this year is District Champ and running state next weekend, but the team missed qualifying by 3 points-bummer). How about telling me that I can't enjoy the musical, a concert, or a play - I'm not very musically inclined but enjoy the students performing - even though I can't identify the oboe.

My hours don't really matter, and I enjoy the vast majority of them, but my favorite is being available to students and staff when they need me. Maybe that is why I prefer to do paperwork and such before the school is busy and while my kids are still asleep, but please don't infer that I must not be passionate about education.

Usually when someone asks me about the hours it takes, I tell them that I just show up and roam around the building, which is partially true. Chirping about how many hours hasn't been a concern for me, one way or another - everyone has their way to get things done. I guess that would be "differentiation" in the work world, wouldn't it?

I do agree with a lot of what you say, but I'm as sick of hearing about how everyone should be able to do a job in the same way with the same time, regardless of their individual situation or style, as I am hearing about how hard people work.

Seems like maybe the World isn't as Flat as some people believe it to be - at least not in terms of carbon copy people doing carbon copy jobs.

In closing, although I may not be the one on a given night, I'm glad that someone is watching to see that the lights are on and the scoreboard is working. That way we can ALL enjoy the game...like it should be.

Julie Evans

I couldn't agree with you more! It's almost a point of pride to work harder than anyone else. . .but I always question what the real motivation behind "all work and no play." I believe that balance in life is critical. While I would agree that our profession requires a great deal of work and it is easy to never be done, we need to continue to strive toward working smarter, not harder!

Connie Cooley

This is so true, education is not about the 'time' we put in. My husband is always telling me it is just a job, that I spend way to much time working. He just doesn't understand, even after 30 years, its so much more than a job. It's what I love and who I am. The other teachers and parents don't want to hear about how much time I spend 'working' they only want to know that I am available for them and that they are important.


What's really funny is the fact that I'm at a meeting full of other administrators today and within the first five minutes of being here, I heard someone make "martyr"-like comments similar to this. I'm sure every profession has individuals like this, but it seems that administrators are some of the worst people like this.

Mark Nixon

Both Greg and Marshall have a "piece to the puzzle" about why we chose this career. There is a lot to do and we like it that way. We are never caught up (unless we aren't really spending any time with the kids) and that's the way it is and always will be. The details are important but they can drive you crazy. I think that I must be a "differentiated principal" and I like it that way.



It's reassuring to me to find someone else who is able to articulate so well a few thoughts that have popped into my ind when I hear colleagues express how much time THEY spend at work. Well done!


Right on, Marshall!!! I have been an at-night paper pusher for over 30 years also or I would never be able to interact with my students!! My students are my children along with my daughter and her family. Doing the job right includes planning ahead so the emergencies of others don't suck the passion out of those of us who pick up the pieces.


Aren't we all guilty of reflecting at week's end and wishing we had found the time for a few more moments to ourselves? It only becomes an issue if we focus on the time we've invested in our 'jobs' and not the time we've invested in our 'kids'.


Balance is so very important...I agree!
Over time as our work and responsibilities evole and change, I find that the demands on my time and learning also change. I might need to devote additional time and energy when a new project or initiative comes on board....and it's worth it to me to invest the extra energy so that I can get up to speed and hopefully ahead of the game.....planning to be proactive. But in the midst of the new challenges and work I still need to remember my priority....family and relationships!


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It is so easy to group ALL people who mention the amount of time they spend at work as martyrs. Sometimes people are not good conversation starters and use the "time spent at work" as just that - a jumping off point for conversation. Someone else might use it to evaluate the amount of time they personally spend vrs the amount of time their colleagues spend. While another might be jealous of the free time and time spent doing more exciting things others in the field have while they are still at work.

As educators we know that students regularly complain about the time they spend on homework each night. Isn't this the equivalent? Instead of complaining about these people, why don't you give them some good ideas to help them accomplish their tasks and spend less time at work??? I know I would appreciate the assistance!


Good Points! Great Reminders to those who constantly speak about their efforts without realizing it.


People who brag about how long the work and how busy they are don't know how to manage their time.


I must confess I do share with my friends 'how many' hours I work sometimes and I may have a bit of a martyr complex and I may have issues with managing my time but I love my job! I really do!

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